
portishead
Apr 30, 02:53 PM
iMac with SSD is awesome. I want thunderbolt, but will probably wait until there are devices released.

AidenShaw
Mar 23, 09:54 PM
So its only SSD to SSD where you get the performance? For example, if I have a regular HD 7200 WD in my Imac and an externall Lacie SSD, I wont see the speeds posted? I needs to be SSD to SSD?
Even SSD to SSD you won't see the 10 Gbps wire speed - if for nothing else than the fastest SATA standard is 6 Gbps. (Assuming that the internal SSD isn't a RAID-0 pair on 6 Gbps SATA controller in a PCIe x8 slot.)
On the other hand, it *will* be faster than USB 2.0 or any shipping flavor of 1394 - so it's a good thing. An external ThunderPort drive will be as fast as an internal drive in the same configuration - because as far as the PCIe bus is concerned it *is* an internal drive.
Apples will finally have the same speeds that eSATA has been giving "the rest of us" for a long time - but there will be a very limited selection of products and most likely a much higher price unless ThunderPort breaks into the high volume mainstream. My guess is that ThunderPort will have a niche market for high-end and special-purpose peripherals (RAID arrays, video/audio professional gear, docking stations), but you won't find USB/1394/ThunderPort disks on sale at Costco. Just due to the butt-pain of daisy-chaining you won't see consumer-priced disks.
I'd buy a ThunderPort to 8 port eSATA hub in a microsecond if it had port-multiplier support, though. (Or, more truthfully, a microsecond after my non-Apple system could support ThunderPort.)
Even SSD to SSD you won't see the 10 Gbps wire speed - if for nothing else than the fastest SATA standard is 6 Gbps. (Assuming that the internal SSD isn't a RAID-0 pair on 6 Gbps SATA controller in a PCIe x8 slot.)
On the other hand, it *will* be faster than USB 2.0 or any shipping flavor of 1394 - so it's a good thing. An external ThunderPort drive will be as fast as an internal drive in the same configuration - because as far as the PCIe bus is concerned it *is* an internal drive.
Apples will finally have the same speeds that eSATA has been giving "the rest of us" for a long time - but there will be a very limited selection of products and most likely a much higher price unless ThunderPort breaks into the high volume mainstream. My guess is that ThunderPort will have a niche market for high-end and special-purpose peripherals (RAID arrays, video/audio professional gear, docking stations), but you won't find USB/1394/ThunderPort disks on sale at Costco. Just due to the butt-pain of daisy-chaining you won't see consumer-priced disks.
I'd buy a ThunderPort to 8 port eSATA hub in a microsecond if it had port-multiplier support, though. (Or, more truthfully, a microsecond after my non-Apple system could support ThunderPort.)

apeman88
Apr 22, 11:44 AM
Pro: The Sandy Bridge 13" MBA is the machine I have been waiting for...
Con: I am going to spend ~$2000 within a couple days of its release...
;)
Con: I am going to spend ~$2000 within a couple days of its release...
;)

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direzz
Aug 28, 04:12 PM
this goes to show how behind apple is in updating.
clearly they arent ready to adapt to an intel platform. the cant even make simple processor adjustments on time!
all the major companies have made this transition.
apple needs to stop being so secretive. they need to start acting like a real computer company, and let there customers know when upgrades are coming.
i wouldnt be surprised if we didnt see these upgrades till october.. no.. january.
this is ridiculous.
/end rant
clearly they arent ready to adapt to an intel platform. the cant even make simple processor adjustments on time!
all the major companies have made this transition.
apple needs to stop being so secretive. they need to start acting like a real computer company, and let there customers know when upgrades are coming.
i wouldnt be surprised if we didnt see these upgrades till october.. no.. january.
this is ridiculous.
/end rant

Piggie
Apr 22, 07:56 AM
Clean your glasses.
I take it, you do not see this ahead?
A world without Books, CD's or DVD's for sale in charity shops to help fund services in need.
A world there you cannot give a CD, DVD, Book etc that you no longer want to a family friend as a gift.
A world where you cannot sell on a Book, CD, DVD, Game to get a little bit of money back, perhaps to buy a new thing you want.
This to me seems where the industry wants to take us.
Everything is purchased by the individual, can only be used by the individual and locked totally to them, so it can never be passed on, given away, or sold by yourself to anyone else.
Can no one else see this is where it COULD go if we all just "go along with it"
I take it, you do not see this ahead?
A world without Books, CD's or DVD's for sale in charity shops to help fund services in need.
A world there you cannot give a CD, DVD, Book etc that you no longer want to a family friend as a gift.
A world where you cannot sell on a Book, CD, DVD, Game to get a little bit of money back, perhaps to buy a new thing you want.
This to me seems where the industry wants to take us.
Everything is purchased by the individual, can only be used by the individual and locked totally to them, so it can never be passed on, given away, or sold by yourself to anyone else.
Can no one else see this is where it COULD go if we all just "go along with it"

tsugaru
Mar 22, 03:18 PM
As for proc choices, I don't see Apple putting in a 2x00(S) processor.
- marketing would suck for it (why only 2.8GHz stock on the 2600S vs 3.4GHz stock on the 2600?)
- Intel charges more for the S models (dunno if that carries over to Apple, but maybe)
- the 27" has carried the i7-860 and i7-870 easily. Those are both 95W TDP processors. 2600S -> 65W TDP and the 2600/2600K -> 95W TDP. So the TDP doesn't increase, but the speed does.
- marketing would suck for it (why only 2.8GHz stock on the 2600S vs 3.4GHz stock on the 2600?)
- Intel charges more for the S models (dunno if that carries over to Apple, but maybe)
- the 27" has carried the i7-860 and i7-870 easily. Those are both 95W TDP processors. 2600S -> 65W TDP and the 2600/2600K -> 95W TDP. So the TDP doesn't increase, but the speed does.

MikeDTyke
Sep 1, 06:26 AM
Over on the 'other' rumor board. AI details how a user who ordered a single core mini, got a pleasant upgrade to a dual core, 100GB HD and most importantly a superdrive.
Why give us a 100GB HD and a superdrive on the most basic machine, because they want us to have plenty of space for the movie downloads and there will be an option to burn these files to DVD.
Couple this with a widescreen ipod, released now and a nano possibly later but with a screen comparable to current 5Gen. That way they get maximum coverage for the new movie store ie. all models play video and anyone prepared to buy the 6G out of the way before they introduce the new nano.
Its a common tactic of the industry to release the highend model first where it potentially is in competition with lower models. Last years nano and 5G where so far apart, there wasn't a worry about releasing the junior model first.
M.
Why give us a 100GB HD and a superdrive on the most basic machine, because they want us to have plenty of space for the movie downloads and there will be an option to burn these files to DVD.
Couple this with a widescreen ipod, released now and a nano possibly later but with a screen comparable to current 5Gen. That way they get maximum coverage for the new movie store ie. all models play video and anyone prepared to buy the 6G out of the way before they introduce the new nano.
Its a common tactic of the industry to release the highend model first where it potentially is in competition with lower models. Last years nano and 5G where so far apart, there wasn't a worry about releasing the junior model first.
M.

macridah
Sep 26, 09:35 AM
Oh hey ... just my luck to have cingular. I will upgrade or add another line the minute it is available.

jelloshotsrule
Oct 27, 09:03 AM
Seriously. I mean I support the environment, but I know reactionary sensationalism when I see it. As someone said, Greenpeace has lost most of it's respect, even with the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency).
i followed you up til you implied that the EPA is some gold standard of environmentalism. talk about an agency/group having lost respect...
i followed you up til you implied that the EPA is some gold standard of environmentalism. talk about an agency/group having lost respect...

BC2009
Mar 30, 12:18 PM
Yeah -- makes you wonder why the American Revolution ever happened. We replaced somebody who ruled by birthright with somebody who ruled by the merits of being a better lawyer. I guess you can't win. If only all political leaders could have been like George Washington who hated political parties.
Yes, military rulers have always been so wonderful in human history. :rolleyes:
You like the irony? I was trying to be subtle on that one.
Yes, military rulers have always been so wonderful in human history. :rolleyes:
You like the irony? I was trying to be subtle on that one.
Ommid
Apr 25, 01:12 PM
Let me clarify, i made my decision before this news was posted here. I really dont see nothing wrong with waiting on this refresh especially if it will be a huge step forward(which i believe it will be).
Its fine, but if you need it get it, if you dont then wait, at the end of the day this is a rumor.
Its fine, but if you need it get it, if you dont then wait, at the end of the day this is a rumor.
cube
May 3, 11:44 AM
As before, that support is entirely derived from ATI's GPUs and the available number of outputs.
You can get 5 Mini-DisplayPort connectors on a single slot video card.
You can daisy chain multiple monitors with DisplayPort 1.2, and it has much more bandwidth than a Thunderbolt channel.
You can get 5 Mini-DisplayPort connectors on a single slot video card.
You can daisy chain multiple monitors with DisplayPort 1.2, and it has much more bandwidth than a Thunderbolt channel.

sully677
May 1, 12:11 AM
Any news about a 24in option?

macadam212
Mar 29, 11:58 AM
I believe Windows Phone market share gains will come largely at the expense of Android. I think iOS will do just fine, as they have great hardware software integration which differentiates them from what Microsoft and Google are doing.
Joshuarocks
Apr 19, 10:10 AM
Minimum wage needs to be increased, national healthcare needs to be implemented and tax holes closed. This country would be in a lot better shape as far as it's lower classes go, imo.
Min wage should be 10/ hour.. possibly 11 with the way this country is heading...
Min wage should be 10/ hour.. possibly 11 with the way this country is heading...

deputy_doofy
Sep 14, 11:02 AM
Dell currently quotes 9-22. Or did yesterday when I placed an order.
Just checked again. It does appear that laptops are ready to go on 9-22, 9-25, and 9-27, depending on which model and size. Still, that gives Apple some "breathing room" to release theirs.
Just checked again. It does appear that laptops are ready to go on 9-22, 9-25, and 9-27, depending on which model and size. Still, that gives Apple some "breathing room" to release theirs.

gloss
Sep 14, 07:08 AM
Maybe the reason for not having a traditional keypad is that this is actually the iPhone Shuffle.
Apple's market research team has concluded that people get tired of talking to the same people all time. And since the iPod Shuffle is such a hit playing songs randomly,
the new iPhone Shuffle will randomly dial numbers, so every call you make is never boring.
Got more than 240 numbers in your adressbook? No problem. Let iTunes autofill your iPhone shuffle and get a new telephonic experience every time. Mom follows Work. Home follows Pizza Parlor. iPhone shuffle loves to improvise. Take the Shuffle switch, for instance. Even if you�ve synced a particular call-list, you can shuffle numbers with a flick.
This was great.
Apple's market research team has concluded that people get tired of talking to the same people all time. And since the iPod Shuffle is such a hit playing songs randomly,
the new iPhone Shuffle will randomly dial numbers, so every call you make is never boring.
Got more than 240 numbers in your adressbook? No problem. Let iTunes autofill your iPhone shuffle and get a new telephonic experience every time. Mom follows Work. Home follows Pizza Parlor. iPhone shuffle loves to improvise. Take the Shuffle switch, for instance. Even if you�ve synced a particular call-list, you can shuffle numbers with a flick.
This was great.

alexdrinan
Jul 14, 01:52 PM
while i agree with you general lineup i don't think the imac goes below 2ghz for marketing reasons.
i also think the prices for the 2.33 and 2.66 are simply too high. the performance gain will not be that much over the one year old dual core g5's. so the price should go down.
but in general i would be happy with any 4MB conroe model.
in a few weeks we will know.
Do we have benchmarks for Conroe vs. G5 yet? I haven't seen any but I would think that a 2.33ghz chip with more advanced architecture would out-perform a 2.0ghz chip with "old" architecture by enough to justify at least keeping the same price point.
i also think the prices for the 2.33 and 2.66 are simply too high. the performance gain will not be that much over the one year old dual core g5's. so the price should go down.
but in general i would be happy with any 4MB conroe model.
in a few weeks we will know.
Do we have benchmarks for Conroe vs. G5 yet? I haven't seen any but I would think that a 2.33ghz chip with more advanced architecture would out-perform a 2.0ghz chip with "old" architecture by enough to justify at least keeping the same price point.
Mac-Addict
Aug 31, 06:35 PM
or maybe just maybe...
Apple is bringing out a new desktop! I mean think about it they haven't really bought out a new desktop for agess all they have done is switch all products to intel.
**Edit, IMO i think its silly because whos gonna pay $14.99 for a movie on a tiny screen, and if they make it to watch on your computer then its just going to take hours and hours to download if you have a slow broadband connection
Apple is bringing out a new desktop! I mean think about it they haven't really bought out a new desktop for agess all they have done is switch all products to intel.
**Edit, IMO i think its silly because whos gonna pay $14.99 for a movie on a tiny screen, and if they make it to watch on your computer then its just going to take hours and hours to download if you have a slow broadband connection
sinsin07
Mar 23, 06:14 PM
His counter point is supposed to be just as silly. That's his point.
No, that's your take on the point. My mileage varies.
No, that's your take on the point. My mileage varies.
ThomJensen
May 3, 11:26 AM
"Macworld has confirmation from Apple that the new iMacs will support Target Display Mode but only when the device they are connected to is also a Thunderbolt equipped Mac."
Is that true?
If this is true, then the new 27" iMacs will not serve as a mirror device for the iPad 2 (which shoots out video at 1080 p).
Is that true?
If this is true, then the new 27" iMacs will not serve as a mirror device for the iPad 2 (which shoots out video at 1080 p).
kiljoy616
Apr 4, 12:35 PM
it's just like the whole Raoul Moat thing here in the UK, he killed I don't know how many people, injured others, shot a Police Officer in the face with a shotgun, and people still said it was wrong to kill him, SERIOUSLY!
I say well done to the Security Guard, i just hope he is commentated for doing the right thing, and lives the rest of his life peacefully.
Its simple lots of people just have issue with emotions of revenge I for one have not one ounce of issue with it. But then most people have never been a victim of crime so its hard for them to visualize the danger. You pull a gun and point and if I can I will put you down without hesitation but most people will just coward as they get shot.
Kudos to the security guard for probably saving other people lives even if they don't realize it.
I say well done to the Security Guard, i just hope he is commentated for doing the right thing, and lives the rest of his life peacefully.
Its simple lots of people just have issue with emotions of revenge I for one have not one ounce of issue with it. But then most people have never been a victim of crime so its hard for them to visualize the danger. You pull a gun and point and if I can I will put you down without hesitation but most people will just coward as they get shot.
Kudos to the security guard for probably saving other people lives even if they don't realize it.
Manic Mouse
Sep 9, 10:30 AM
I've searched for address bus width for the Core 2 line, but haven't found anything. It is, however, not likely that Intel downgraded the width from the previous models, which would mean either a 36 or a 40 bit bus. Also note that AMD's K8 (Athlon 64, Sempron and Opteron) also feature a 40 bit address bus and not 64 as someone might think. I also think that the G5 uses a 40 or 42 bit address bus, so it's pretty much the same there too.
So, if Core 2 has a 40 bit bus (which is likely) you end up with 1TB of addressable memory space.
Also, Core 2 CPUs are fully capable of running 64 bit code. Whether the address bus is 64 bits wide or not hasn't got anything to do with the width of the internal data path and execution unit width.
Thanks :D
To be honest I'm not all that well versed in the differences between 64bit and 32bit computing...
So, if Core 2 has a 40 bit bus (which is likely) you end up with 1TB of addressable memory space.
Also, Core 2 CPUs are fully capable of running 64 bit code. Whether the address bus is 64 bits wide or not hasn't got anything to do with the width of the internal data path and execution unit width.
Thanks :D
To be honest I'm not all that well versed in the differences between 64bit and 32bit computing...




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